Media & Podcasts
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Long-form conversations on intelligence tradecraft, technology, and the fight against human trafficking
Mike Drop Podcast (Mike Ritland) · July 2026Meet The Real Jack Ryan: PJ Turned CIA SpyNic McKinley joins Mike Ritland - retired Navy SEAL and host of Mike Drop - to walk through the full arc: Air Force Pararescue, the CIA, and building DeliverFund. A direct conversation on what it takes to operate in high-stakes environments and why the next war is being fought online.Read & watch
Cleared Hot with Andy Stumpf · June 2026How Intelligence Operations Get Funded - and the Epstein QuestionNic McKinley and former trafficking attorney and federal agent Ryan Dalton join Andy Stumpf to look past the spy-novel version of Jeffrey Epstein. The sober read: a financial broker who moved money and collected leverage - and a window into how intelligence operations actually get funded, why a broker turns useful then disposable, and what a trial would have forced into the open.Read & watch
Unsubscribe Podcast · May 2026The Ex-CIA Officer and Air Force PJ Who Hunts PredatorsNic McKinley joins the Unsubscribe Podcast to talk about going from Air Force Pararescue to the CIA to hunting the people who exploit children - and why the same intelligence tradecraft used against terror networks now targets online predators.Read & watch
Cleared Hot with Andy Stumpf · December 2025Hunting Human Traffickers: 764, Roblox, and the Online Grooming PipelineA nearly three-hour conversation centered on the risk to children on the platforms they use most - Roblox, Minecraft, and Discord. Nic McKinley breaks down the 764 network and the online grooming pipeline, where DeliverFund stands after five years, why the prosecution system leaves a gap, and what parents can actually do about it.Read & watch
Hello Whitefish Podcast · August 2025Cartels in Montana: The Trafficking Pipeline No One Is Talking AboutNic McKinley joins wildlife conservation officer and author John Nores to talk about cartel activity inside Montana - the trafficking corridors, the proximity to Flathead Valley communities, and what local law enforcement is and isn't equipped to handle.Read & watch
Miss Understood Podcast (Rachel Uchitel) · February 2025The Hidden Threats: Child Trafficking and Online SafetyNic McKinley joins Rachel Uchitel to address the threat parents are not prepared for - predators operating on mainstream platforms where children spend their time. A practical conversation on what the grooming pipeline looks like, how it starts, and what families can do now.Read & watch
Cleared Hot with Andy Stumpf · January 2025Episode 368 - Nic McKinleyNic McKinley returns to Cleared Hot for his third appearance with Andy Stumpf - the evolution of DeliverFund's intelligence platform, the current state of human trafficking prosecution, and the technology gap between predators and the people hunting them.Read & watch
Liss 'N Kristi · June 2024Combat Leader Nic McKinley's New War - Human TraffickingThe first of a two-part conversation with Liss 'N Kristi. Nic McKinley covers the operational architecture of human trafficking networks, how DeliverFund applies intelligence tradecraft against traffickers, and why this fight requires the same mindset as combat operations.Read & watch
Walk The Talk America Podcast · May 2024Brain Health and Countering Human TraffickingA conversation covering two fronts: the mental health toll on operators and investigators in the anti-trafficking space, and the intelligence-driven technology approach DeliverFund uses to support law enforcement at scale.Read & watch
Mike Force Podcast with Mike Glover · February 2024The Real-Life Jack Ryan, On the RecordNic McKinley sits down with Green Beret and combat veteran Mike Sarraille for a wide-ranging conversation on his path from Air Force Pararescue to the CIA, building no-fail teams in a nuclear-armed country, and the non-linear problem-solving that defined the work. Two operators, one unfiltered conversation.Read & watch
Patriot to the Core Podcast (Thad Forester) · September 2023Fighting a War on Human TraffickingNic McKinley sits down with Thad Forester to explain why human trafficking is a war - not a social problem - and why it requires a war-fighting methodology to win. The conversation covers the operational history behind DeliverFund and the intelligence model that underpins it.Read & watch
Cleared Hot with Andy Stumpf · August 2023The Fight Against Human TraffickingNic McKinley joins Andy Stumpf for an in-depth conversation on the fight against human trafficking - the operational architecture of trafficking networks, the evidence-based approach DeliverFund uses with law enforcement, and why the current prosecution system leaves critical gaps.Read & watch
Everyday Warrior Podcast (Men's Journal) · August 2023Fighting Human Trafficking - and the VICE "Jack Ryan" StoryA deep conversation with Men's Journal on the realities of fighting human trafficking - the limits of social media companies, how DeliverFund supports law enforcement, the psychological toll on officers, and how to strengthen the existing system. Plus the backstory of how VICE made Nic "the real-life Jack Ryan."Read & watch
Hello Whitefish Podcast · July 2023Ex-CIA Special Agent / Air Force PJ - Who Is Nic McKinley?Nic McKinley's first appearance on Hello Whitefish - an origin story conversation covering his path from Air Force Pararescue to the CIA, why he moved to Montana, and how he built DeliverFund from scratch to apply intelligence tools to human trafficking.Read & watch
VICE Media · June 2023The Real Jack Ryan - by VICE MediaVICE Media's profile of Nic McKinley - the former CIA officer and Air Force Pararescueman who left the intelligence community to build private technology that hunts human traffickers. The origin of the 'real Jack Ryan' label and the story behind it.Read & watch
Cleared Hot with Andy Stumpf · December 2022Episode 265 - CEO and Founder of DeliverFundNic McKinley's first Cleared Hot appearance - the founding story of DeliverFund, the intelligence architecture behind it, and the operational mindset required to build an organization that puts former intelligence officers and special operations veterans to work hunting traffickers.Read & watch
Shaun Attwood's True Crime Podcast · October 2022Ex-CIA Agent vs. Human TraffickersNic McKinley returns to Shaun Attwood's True Crime Podcast for a second appearance - a deeper dive into DeliverFund's operational approach, how intelligence analysis identifies trafficking networks, and what the evidence shows about the scale of the problem in the United States.Read & watch
PBD Podcast (Patrick Bet-David) · January 2022PBD Podcast - EP 114 - Special Guest: Nic McKinleyNic McKinley joins Patrick Bet-David for Episode 114 - a conversation on the business and mission of DeliverFund, how a CIA officer ends up founding a nonprofit intelligence operation, and the economic reality of human trafficking in the United States.Read & watch
Shaun Attwood's True Crime Podcast · April 2021An Ex-CIA Officer's Mission Against Human TraffickingNic McKinley walks through the complete journey - from Air Force Pararescue to the CIA to founding DeliverFund, the private intelligence organization that helps law enforcement hunt down human traffickers. A first-hand account of the work, the mission, and the operating mindset behind it.Read & watch
Cleared Hot with Andy Stumpf · March 2021Episode 171 - Nic McKinleyNic McKinley's first Cleared Hot appearance - the full story of how a former CIA officer and Air Force PJ ended up building an organization that uses intelligence tradecraft to help law enforcement hunt human traffickers.Read & watch
Valuetainment with Patrick Bet-David · March 2021Ex-CIA Agent Reveals How to End Human TraffickingNic McKinley sits down with Patrick Bet-David for a 90-minute conversation on his path from Air Force Pararescue to the CIA, why human trafficking is a pure profit play, and why stopping traffickers - not just rescuing victims - is the only strategy that scales.Read & watch
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