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Former CIA Agent Reveals How Human Trafficking Networks Operate

An Intelligence Operator's View of Modern Slavery

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Nic McKinley for a deep conversation covering his career in the CIA and U.S. Air Force Pararescue, the mechanics of how human trafficking networks operate, and the founding of DeliverFund as a private intelligence response to the crisis.

Show PBD Podcast / ValuetainmentEpisode Episode 114Host Patrick Bet-DavidPublished January 11, 2022
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What Nic Said

Nic McKinley founded DeliverFund as a private, donor-funded intelligence organization — the only one specifically designed to disrupt human trafficking networks by applying the same methodology used against terrorist organizations.
DeliverFund delivers proprietary data and technology to law enforcement at no cost, enabling agencies to build stronger cases and take down entire trafficking networks rather than pursuing individual cases.
Nic's combined background in special operations and intelligence gives DeliverFund operational credibility that advocacy organizations cannot replicate — practitioners applying practitioner-level tools.
The challenge of trafficking is not a resource problem at its core — it's a methodology problem. Applying intelligence tradecraft at scale changes the equation for law enforcement.
Topics CIA Human Trafficking DeliverFund Special Operations Nonprofit Leadership Intelligence

Key Moments

Career Overview: From Pararescue to the CIA

Patrick Bet-David asks Nic to walk through his career arc — from joining U.S. Air Force Pararescue to recruitment into a specialized unit at the CIA to his decision to leave government service and found DeliverFund.

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How Trafficking Networks Actually Operate

Nic explains the mechanics of commercial sexual exploitation in the United States — how networks recruit, how they operate, how they advertise, and how they evade law enforcement for years.

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Why the Government Response Falls Short

The structural reasons law enforcement is underpowered against trafficking networks — and why a private, data-driven intelligence organization fills a gap that government structures cannot.

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DeliverFund's Intelligence Model

How DeliverFund generates proprietary intelligence, delivers it to law enforcement partners, and measures outcomes. The organization's model of equipping, training, and advising law enforcement.

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The Road Ahead

Nic's assessment of what it will take to reach a point where trafficking networks cannot operate at scale in the United States — and the role technology plays in reaching that goal.

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