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The Real-Life Jack Ryan

From Pararescue to the CIA to DeliverFund

Mike Glover and Nic McKinley trace the full arc of Nic's career — from U.S. Air Force Pararescue to the CIA to founding DeliverFund. A direct, operator-to-operator conversation on intelligence tradecraft, counter-trafficking operations, and the VICE Media "Real-Life Jack Ryan" label.

Show Mike Force PodcastEpisode Episode 120Host Mike GloverPublished February 2, 2024
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What Nic Said

Nic McKinley spent more than a decade in U.S. Air Force Pararescue before being recruited into a specialized unit at the CIA — a path that mirrors the Jack Ryan arc of field expertise transitioning to intelligence operations.
The "real-life Jack Ryan" label came from VICE Media after covering Nic's work at DeliverFund — an organization applying intelligence tradecraft to the disruption of child trafficking networks.
DeliverFund was founded in 2014 and went operational in April 2015, applying counter-terrorism methodology to the disruption of sex trafficking networks in the United States.
Nic also founded and exited a venture capital-backed software company — operational and financial experience that he deploys toward DeliverFund's technology infrastructure.
Topics CIA U.S. Air Force Pararescue DeliverFund Intelligence Tradecraft Jack Ryan Counter-Trafficking

Key Moments

The Pararescue Years

Nic describes more than a decade in U.S. Air Force Pararescue — the operational environment, the combat deployments, and the tradecraft that defined his approach to high-stakes problem-solving under pressure.

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From the Military to the CIA

How and why Nic was recruited into a specialized unit at the CIA, what he can share about that work, and how the experience of running intelligence operations shaped his view of what technology could accomplish against criminal networks.

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The Real-Life Jack Ryan Label

Where the VICE Media designation came from, what it means in practice, and Nic's candid take on carrying it publicly. The comparison to Tom Clancy's character — and where the fiction diverges from the operational reality.

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Founding DeliverFund

Nic explains why he left in 2014 to found DeliverFund, what the organization does differently from law enforcement, and how the private intelligence model fills a structural gap that government agencies cannot.

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The Technology Approach to Counter-Trafficking

An operator's view of why technology is the lever that scales impact against trafficking networks. DeliverFund's model of equipping law enforcement with intelligence, data, and tools — and why that approach outperforms traditional investigation alone.

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